why can't souku be more like king abec

[danwhite]

anub kill video of a guild i was friends with back on scilla.

http://www.wegame.com/watch/WLPH-Heroic-25-AnubArak/

tank has to repair his shield halfway through the fight.

[Videsh]

Cause abe is king of Nath and Scilla while I'm a poor lowly orc?

Where do you think I got pinkberry from?
http://www.vimeo.com/1938609

[tyrone]

man that's a whole different strat - requires hunters to have an Iq above 10 and rogues to run out and tricks.

Single tank on adds means he just stands there - spams cleave and thunderclap and a random shockwave - the adds have to die before the cast shadow strike which is in 30 seconds.

This would make sokou's job easier since all he has to do it not die and spam 3 buttons, healing would be harder, it would increase caster dps but it would require at least

3rogues + 2 hunters + 2 healers to not eat dicks. so instead of relying on souku and blessin to not choke on a johnson you are now relying on 7 people to not gag on a cock, which is a lot more dangerous and prone to error.

If you can put the pressure to play correctly on a few players that you know wont fuck it up you might as well any strat that requires more than 8 people to have more brain cells than a rose bush is usually too hard to implement (i.e. old school freya hardmode.)

[Sealclubber]

the adds have to die before the cast shadow strike which is in 30 seconds
That's not what's happening in the video, the adds die about as quickly as they do in our raids and at times in the video slower.

[Videsh]

That's not what's happening in the video, the adds die about as quickly as they do in our raids and at times in the video slower.

The reason why guilds use 2 tanks (1 on anub 1 on adds) is because they need the extra dps from the added player. We actually have to slow down our dps so we don't go into p3 with stacks up.

Edit: Abe is king.

[tyrone]

That's not what's happening in the video, the adds die about as quickly as they do in our raids and at times in the video slower.

IDK look at the first set where he uses shockwave at the start when all 4 adds are finally grouped up he has 2 in the 90%s and 2 at full HP, and its just about to go off CD when they die. So going by the shockwave CD and the cast bar they do kill them faster than us.

LBx4 (1.5) 6
Blizzardx2.5 (6) 15

that is 21 seconds vs ~ 15 second kills on the video

As far as how fast we kill them the boss and if we have to slow down or not you can always slow down even though some people's electronic penises don't allow them to stop pushing their buttons there are usually enough people who stop when to told do the make a strat work ... usually not always.

[Abec]

Sup,

Well we tried all the other ways, and lack of dps really was not the problem, we tried 3 tanking it and for us it was just adding so many variables into the equation that we found 2 tanking the boss way simpler on the raid and let us focus on getting insanity faster.

As far as tanking 'ability', single tanking the adds is a lot harder than thunderclaping, cleaving and randomly hitting shockwave. We only use 3 misdirects ( now its different ) 2 rogues 1 hunter and i pick up the top left add ( facing the boss ). From there you have to keep threat on 4 adds, by using cleave ( glyphed ) and shield slams on targets that you are losing threat on, I cant randomly shockwave as the diminish returns will screw us on shadow strike, I'm also on the stun for shadow step so I do have to time the shockwave. To top it off I have 108.3% avoidance on the fight and I do still get hit by many melee full hits that are NOT blocked. There is a lot of ability that comes into play at leeching swarm in order for me not die. Rotating all cooldowns. using shockwave at specific times, keeping threat on every add with heroism up on the casters, and sometimes keeping up sunders on anub as well as we've gone a few weeks without a dps warrior.

I'm not sitting here bragging or gloating, but it is alot more difficult then just spamming a few buttons randomly and hoping for the best, if I were to do that we would have never gotten insanity.

As for our dps, you can see our latest kill here for a comparison: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-e7ohtlffpybdwf81/sum/damageDone/?s=7614&e=8080

Peace be with you,

Abec

[Whitechaos]

I'm confused. As far as I can see we got Insanity 3 weeks before you.

Its cool to say "I'm not sitting here bragging or gloating," but the mere fact that u felt the need to say the need to say that shows that you knew you were bragging and/or gloating.

All good if you wanna say what you do or what not, but no reason to say how much harder it is than what everyone else does or how much skill u obviously must have cuz you do said actions.

If you wanna brag and flex your e-peen thats what friends are for. lol

Just some thoughts.

White

[Abec]

I just disagreed with the assessment of spamming cleave and shockwave randomly and the indication that it was due to low dps adjustments, as it wasn't the case.

As stated, it wasn't meant as a brag, just an alternative view as to what I saw. I only meant to indicate that the degree of difficulty was much more than that was being indicated in this thread.

In the end, we were just bored and randomly doing Google searches for WLPH and other things, I looked for king abec and this was the second post. Didn't meant to start a flame war!

[Whitechaos]

Lol no flame war man. As Billy Joel once said We Didn't Start the Fire... lol

[Abec]

how did you get the nooberies thing on the front page, are you guys manually imputing that information in or is there a way to export fails? I've been wanting to add that to our sit but not manually.

[Videsh]

WHAT THE FUCK IT'S KING ABE OF NATHREZIM!!

[Videsh]

I love how you google King Abe.

[danwhite]

king abec you will have to excuse whitechaos... i don't think he understands royalty

[Whitechaos]

My bad... just now looked at your website... I completely understand now. :-p

[tyrone]

I don't anyone said the start was due to low dps - its a strat built around caster aoe evenly on all 4 adds. The dps on the adds is higher and more even than what we did on our first insanity kill. It's a smoother kill & somewhat faster add kill since you don't have to worry about range and such + 1 DPS.

Different ways to do things - even with 1 hunter + 2 tricks its still relies on more people to not chocke than our current strat... ect ect.... philosophical differences. DPS isn't really an issue in either strat.